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The Reasons For Slow Hot Water, What To Do About It.

Ever wonder why it takes so long sometimes for the hot water to finally start coming out?


 

Reason Number 1:

Lets begin with the piping layout. 


When most homes are built, there are no specific plumbing blue prints to follow, so the plumbers just connect up the piping however the individual doing the job feels like it. 


Whatever is easiest often is the only criteria.  I’ve encountered tract homes that have identical floor plans yet the plumbing is connected up substantially different.


If your heater is 30 feet from the fixture as the crow flies, you probably have at least 50 feet of pipe.


The simplest plumbing layout would have a pipe connecting from your water heater outlet, running either down to the crawl space or up to the attic, or even under the slab if you have slab floors.


Now add the 30 feet of pipe to the fixture, and the pipe running either up to the fixture or down to the fixture.  So you now have at least 60 feet of pipe.  However, seldom is the pipe run diagonally, usually following along beams or through walls etc, making right angle turns here and there.  The pipe could be 80 feet or longer by the time it reaches your fixture.


So if you do not have an uninterrupted hot water circulating system, every time you use water, you have to wait for the water tom travel all that distance until it gets to your faucet, and worse, has to heat up those pipes too!


But this is only one of the possible reasons.



 

Understand Flow Rates:


Flow rates and fixtures

The amount of water flowing through the pipe, water pressure and the pipe diameter, is what determines the speed at which the water flows. 


The flow rate of the water is most likely determined by the flow rate of the faucet or fixture, in certain areas a pressure regulator outside the home is set to 40 to 60 PSI maximum, especially in Los Angeles areas.


At only 40 psi, a ½” diameter copper pipe 100 feet long would have a flow rate of over 6 gallons per minute, with a velocity through the pipe of over 10 feet per second. 


At that rate your hot water would arrive at your sink in about 6 seconds! Large diameter pipes would have even higher flow rates.


 

More Limitations Of Flow:


Low-Flow Faucets

The Federal Energy Policy Act of 1992 required all faucet and shower fixtures made the USA to have a flow rate of no more than 2.2 GPM at 60 PSI. 


Since the pipe itself will allow a much greater flow rate, your water velocity in the pipe will be limited by the flow rate of the fixture. 


NOTE: The larger the pipe is, the lower the velocity will be with a fixed flow. At some houses that we built under prescriptive methods, inspectors made us install thicker pipes 3/4" all the way to 2' from each outlet fixtures or pay an engineering to calculate flow! So we chose to install thicker pipe, not to stop the job and delay delivery. But I sidetracked here...


At 2.2 gallons per minute, the velocity of the water in ½” diameter copper pipe is about 3 feet per second.  If you are at a kitchen sink it will take about 16 seconds to get the hot water, assuming the flow rate of your fixture is 2.2 gallons per minute, if the cold pipe wasn’t sucking any heat out of the water.


Normally bathroom sink fixtures are restricted to 1 gallon per minute or less, and many shower heads are 1 gallon per minute. 


At one gallon per minute the time to travel 100 feet would be 64 seconds.


 

Aggravating factors:


Heat Absorbing, Cold Hot Water Pipes

Now we come to the part where the cold pipes are pulling the heat out of the water.


There are some variables involved here, with the important ones being the ambient temperature of the piping material, what the pipe is made out of, if there is insulation around them and the types of insulation, and once again, the flow rate of the water.

 

Colder Pipes Absorb More Heat and the Role of Insulation

Colder pipes absorb more heat, heavier pipe material hold more heat and so pulls more heat from the water, and the slower the water travels, the more heat gets removed. 


That being said, the thick copper pipes, although it may last longer, it also sucks heat out of the water at a fast rate and transmit it to the air around it. So insulation is not a 100% solution but it helps stopping heat loss once the pipes get hot.


To be more clear, insulating the hot water piping helps in a sense that it keeps the pipes from getting as cold as the air around it, and reduces the ongoing heat loss from the pipes to the air, resulting in a slightly higher temperature during usage.


The time it takes to get hot water at the fixture can easily double when the heat loss to the pipes is taken into account, especially in cold days, more so if the pipes run through uninsulated areas.

 

Tankless Water Heaters Add To The Problem

Lets start with the statement that "Instant hot water from a cheap tankless water heater is a myth." We back that statement.


If you have a tankless water heater, especially the cheap ones, then you are even worse off, since the whole water heater is like a long cold pipe inside the unit.


In order to get full temperature hot water out of the outlet, it has to pass all the way through the pipes inside the heater, from the inlet to the outlet. Instead of starting with hot water, you are starting with cold water and a cold heater, which takes time to heat to an ideal temperature. 


The owners of cheap tankless water heaters need to add 10 or 15 seconds to the wait.


That is why it is important to install tankless water heaters close to the water usage outlets to rip the advertised benefits of instant hot water.

 

SUMMARIZING SOLUTIONS:

The fastest hot water delivery would be provided by using small diameter pipe, insulating the pipe, using plastic pipe instead of metal, and keeping the length of the pipe to a minimum.

 

Products designed to get your hot water faster while conserving water

The good news is that there are several products available that help you get your hot water faster without changing your plumbing system.  Not only do you get your hot water faster, you don’t run any water down the drain while you wait.



 

The Warm Water Circulation Method

There are basically two approaches to the problem.  One approach is to circulate warm water through the piping so that the pipe doesn’t suck heat out of the water while it’s on its way.  This provides a substantial improvement in delivery time.  These systems consist of a small pump that mounts under the sink furthest from the water heater, which is temperature controlled, turning off and on as needed to keep the water in the piping system at between 85 and 95 degrees F.

The water is circulated from the water heater through the hot water pipes to the pump, and then on into the cold water line and back to the water heater inlet.

The down side is that the cold water pipes no longer have cold water…it’s more like luke-warm, which some people don’t mind, and some don’t care for it. Another problem is that it uses a lot more energy since the water heater has to work harder to keep the water in the pipes at above ambient temperature.

The warm-water systems will not work with tankless water heaters.



 

The High-speed Delivery Method

No One likes to wait for hot water


The second approach is to again mount a small pump at the sink furthest from the water heater, but instead of keeping the pipes full of warm water the pump is only activated when hot water is wanted.  When activated these pumps pump the water rapidly to the fixture at higher flow rates than the fixtures could provide. 


When the hot water reaches the pump, it shuts off.


Since the water is flowing at a higher than normal flow rate it arrives more quickly, and since it is traveling at a higher velocity, the pipe absorbs less heat from the water. 


Again, no water gets run down the drain.  These systems are called “demand hot water systems” since they only operate on demand, i.e. when the user pushes a button that starts the pump.


Demand type hot water systems will work with tankless water heaters as long as they produce enough flow. Some pumps do and others don’t, so check with the manufacturer of the demand system to make sure it will work with your model of tankless heater.


 

Manufacturers of hot water systems

The warm-water pumping systems are manufactured by Laing, Grundfos, RedyTemp, and others.  The demand type systems are manufactured by Chilipepper Sales, Metlund, Taco, and others.  Suggested retail prices range from about $180 to about $800.

Installing one of these systems not only provides the convenience of fast hot water, but can also save thousands of gallons of water per year.  A typical family of four can save over 10,000 gallons of water a year.


 

Hot Water Demand Systems That Are Environmentally Friendly!

Along with the water savings comes a reduction in green house gas emissions since energy is used to pump and treat the water in most residential water systems. And don’t forget about the reduction in sewage, the same energy reduction applies to it.


The Ultimate Handyman offers Plumbing, Plumbing repair, hot water heater, and hot water heating system installation services here in the Los Angeles area. Check us out on the web at www.theultimatehandyman.com

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